We don't get a ton of Canon Cinema EOS information ahead of product launches over the years, but since the EOS R5 C, that has changed a bit.
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So we will get an RV (suposedly FF simmilar to R8), R7V (APS-C), and some new other fullframe RV camera, likely something like the R5 (8k)?
And above the R5 C then there is the cinema department with some new products this year - at least one boxy "Sony-killer"?
And above the R5 C then there is the cinema department with some new products this year - at least one boxy "Sony-killer"?
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I think a Sony Burano or Sony FX9 style body camera is the perfect form factor for ducumentary filmmakers
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Yes, good catch. C70 is a typo and should be replaced with C80. C80 is full frame 6k sensor. C70 is 4k Aps-c DGO sensor.
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I wonder if the higher-end model (C600?) would share the C400 body design (in the same way that the C500II and C300III shared designs). In general, I think the C400 body is great, but suspect the mini-XLR and mini-DIN connectors could be points of friction for some at the higher end.
Given the Burano’s steep $25k (US) price tag, Canon has a good deal of room to play with while still being able to undercut Sony. I’d certainly hope $15k or less … maybe $13k.
But for that price, what could be the differentiating factors vs the C400?
The wildcard could be a Global Shutter sensor (perhaps as an option), but I am not sure how much demand there would be for that. (If they could manage a Global Shutter sensor with DGO, now that would be quite interesting.)
Given the Burano’s steep $25k (US) price tag, Canon has a good deal of room to play with while still being able to undercut Sony. I’d certainly hope $15k or less … maybe $13k.
But for that price, what could be the differentiating factors vs the C400?
- A DGO sensor certainly would be welcomed
- Hopefully they could do this while sticking to the 6K FF resolution (which is certainly the sweet spot now)
- Hopefully they could do this while maintaining the triple base ISO function (which, although not perfect, is very nice to have)
- Hopefully there would be a way to disable the DGO mode to get higher readout speeds
- Two CF Express B slots would certainly be expected
- Open gate/anamorphic capture modes (taller than the normal 17:9 image)
- A body or extension unit with full size connectors
- A USB-C EVF (hopefully could work with the C400)
The wildcard could be a Global Shutter sensor (perhaps as an option), but I am not sure how much demand there would be for that. (If they could manage a Global Shutter sensor with DGO, now that would be quite interesting.)
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Canon needs to loosen up and stop crippling the in camera LUT and Look File functionality. Canon prohibiting the application of LUTs being applied in camera to both the video and stills as like what is capable from other brands such as Panasonic and RED has become irritating and old. Common Canon its 2025, its no secret, Real Time LUTs can be applied in camera to both stills and video, baked in and sent via jpeg to other platforms.
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Canon EOS R50 V:
Dissabling the in camera frame grab for footage with CP enabled? What gives with Canon continually crippling their CP Look file functionality. Canon is hell bent on dissabling in camera pre color grading in all modes. Pretending to offer what we think they're offering, but with extreme caveats. We'll just let you do your thing with ur video, but that's as far as we'll go. You gotta do the rest in post somewhere else. Thought that Canon had stepped up to Panasonic. Not. Canon's version of "Real Time LUTs" only applies to video mode only. Unlike RED and Panasonic.
Dissabling the in camera frame grab for footage with CP enabled? What gives with Canon continually crippling their CP Look file functionality. Canon is hell bent on dissabling in camera pre color grading in all modes. Pretending to offer what we think they're offering, but with extreme caveats. We'll just let you do your thing with ur video, but that's as far as we'll go. You gotta do the rest in post somewhere else. Thought that Canon had stepped up to Panasonic. Not. Canon's version of "Real Time LUTs" only applies to video mode only. Unlike RED and Panasonic.
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I’ve been filing corporate videos on the C80 since it came out last year. A smaller, mini C80 for gimbal use would be much appreciated.
I’ve been trying to use the R5II as a mini-C80 and it’s takes so long to match the C80 look and color in post that it kills the workflow (and it never totally matches. The 4K fine is obviously sharper than C80 and the C80 has more dynamic range).
If by “something totally different” or a “box camera” they just mean a DSLR style body with no EVF, like the FX3, I would take it. If they managed to fit the same size C80/400 monitor on the back that would be cool.
An actual small box camera with the C80/400 sensor and a detached monitor would still be useful on a gimbal, but otherwise it’s kind of limiting because in almost all other scenarios you want a monitor on the camera, and a small box with a big C400-style monitor arm would be a little weird.
Or maybe the “totally different” is referring their latest patent for some kind of layered cooling system that could make the C80/400 image possible in a smaller body without overheating.
I’ve been trying to use the R5II as a mini-C80 and it’s takes so long to match the C80 look and color in post that it kills the workflow (and it never totally matches. The 4K fine is obviously sharper than C80 and the C80 has more dynamic range).
If by “something totally different” or a “box camera” they just mean a DSLR style body with no EVF, like the FX3, I would take it. If they managed to fit the same size C80/400 monitor on the back that would be cool.
An actual small box camera with the C80/400 sensor and a detached monitor would still be useful on a gimbal, but otherwise it’s kind of limiting because in almost all other scenarios you want a monitor on the camera, and a small box with a big C400-style monitor arm would be a little weird.
Or maybe the “totally different” is referring their latest patent for some kind of layered cooling system that could make the C80/400 image possible in a smaller body without overheating.
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Sony's new FX2 does what Canon refused to do with the R 50V. Allow Log shooting fo stills. Content convergence. Easy integration of the video colors and grading workflow across all media. Step up your workflow game Canon. Don't be late to the dance always.
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Canon's old camera photography still image philosophy of totally isolating the cinema/video color workflow from still images has become aged, and not like fine wine. Sony answers any doubt with improved still image processing of the Fx2. Where Canon fell short with the EOS R50 v. I have consistantly request that Canon get on board with RED and Panasonic. Late to the dance, maybe the R50v will get an upgrade in a year. What should have been there initially.
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