Nikon to Announce Nikkor Z 35mm f/1.2 S ahead of CP+

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That would be actually the good news both for Nikon and Canon. It seemed that both companies faced some technical challenges in designing 35mm f/1.2 lenses. If true, that would mean that they found a way to overcome those challenges, and I would expect that Canon releases their f/1.2 in the foreseeable future as well.
 
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Del Paso said:
I hear someone crying bitter tears...;)
Nikon will get the f/1,2 trinity ahead of Canon!
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I don't understand how Nikon is one-up on Canon in some of the lenses such as the two internal 1.4x "TC" 600/4 and 400/2.8 vs no such thing in canon anymore. I have the nikkor Z 600/4 TC and it's so incredibly useful to have that switch back n forth internally. I also have the EF 200-400/4 which I love and use adapted to the Nikon Z9 or on an R1 or R52.

Then in the fast primes you have that Nikkor Noct 58/.95 and now this 35 coming.
 
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JWest said:
I don't understand how Nikon is one-up on Canon in some of the lenses such as the two internal 1.4x "TC" 600/4 and 400/2.8 vs no such thing in canon anymore. I have the nikkor Z 600/4 TC and it's so incredibly useful to have that switch back n forth internally. I also have the EF 200-400/4 which I love and use adapted to the Nikon Z9 or on an R1 or R52.

Then in the fast primes you have that Nikkor Noct 58/.95 and now this 35 coming.
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The situation is quite odd. Canon re-badging EF super-teles as RF while Nikon (with a tiny market share!) invests the money to develop an entirely new series of super-teles. The 400 and 600 with TCs. The 400/4.5, the 600/6.3 PF, the 800/6.3 PF. Then the 180-600 which seems great too. Meanwhile Canon installs permanent 2x TCs in the EF 400 & 600, adds more length for the flange distance, and calls them RF 800/5.6 and 1200/8 lenses? It feels like some sort of weird alternate reality.

For the shorter 50/1.2S and 85/1.2S, the Nikon primes are excellent but somehow HUGE. Seems they spent all their ability on making compact & light lenses on the super tele side of things. That's also very odd.

Meanwhile Viltrox in China seems set to release 35/1.2, 50/1.2, and 85/1.2 lenses on both E and Z. And maybe X too?

Interesting times.
 
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Also the plena is IMHO superior to the RF 135/1.8.

Canon on the other Hand has the 28-70/2, the 24-105/2.8, the 10-20/4 the small non Z 70-200/2.8.

If Canon really wants to produce unique lenses, they must step up the Game, currently Nikon produces more unique lenses than Canon.

That‘s coming from a Canon Fanboy who also used Nikon in the past, but came back to Canon with the R5.
 
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JWest said:
I don't understand how Nikon is one-up on Canon in some of the lenses such as the two internal 1.4x "TC" 600/4 and 400/2.8 vs no such thing in canon anymore. I have the nikkor Z 600/4 TC and it's so incredibly useful to have that switch back n forth internally. I also have the EF 200-400/4 which I love and use adapted to the Nikon Z9 or on an R1 or R52.

Then in the fast primes you have that Nikkor Noct 58/.95 and now this 35 coming.
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As you just wrote, "some of the lenses".
The same could be said of Canon too, and there's also the fact that some "new" Z lenses are simply rebadged Tamrons.
Think of the coming RF lenses like the 14mm AF T/S, the future telezooms etc*...
We know there's a lot coming from Canon, including some nice surprises.
* RF 35mm f/1,2?
 
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Del Paso said:
I hear someone crying bitter tears...;)
Nikon will get the f/1,2 trinity ahead of Canon!
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I've seen this thread just now!
I am ambivalent about this rumor...
On one side I am hopeful this will give Canon one more incentive to deliver a RF 35 1.2 in a reasonable timeframe... although Canon is not following Nikon like-for-like (nor vice versa)
On the other side, the envy is real :cry:

And if someone pipes up telling me that Canon knows better.... well I couldn't care less. I know what I want.
 
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roby17269 said:
And if someone pipes up telling me that Canon knows better.... well I couldn't care less. I know what I want.
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Canon knows better. :p

Seriously, the RF 50/1.2 remains in the lineup and is a step up from the 50/1.4L VCM. I suspect we'll see an 85/1.4L VCM at some point, and I do hope Canon completes the f/1.2 trinity with a 35mm offering. For your sake, if not mine.
 
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xmarijan said:
That would be actually the good news both for Nikon and Canon. It seemed that both companies faced some technical challenges in designing 35mm f/1.2 lenses. If true, that would mean that they found a way to overcome those challenges, and I would expect that Canon releases their f/1.2 in the foreseeable future as well.
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I don't think its challenges at all. I just think the focal length isn't as popular as many of us photo nerds or gearheads think it is. There's a reason why it was addressed last.
 
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neuroanatomist said:
Canon knows better. :p
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Predictable :sneaky:
neuroanatomist said:
Seriously, the RF 50/1.2 remains in the lineup and is a step up from the 50/1.4L VCM. I suspect we'll see an 85/1.4L VCM at some point, and I do hope Canon completes the f/1.2 trinity with a 35mm offering. For your sake, if not mine.
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For my sake and for the betterment of mankind :ROFLMAO:
I agree a 85 1.4 is likely, although it won't part me from my 85 1.2 - incidentally, how do you find the 85 1.2 DS?
 
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Swissbob said:
Also the plena is IMHO superior to the RF 135/1.8.

Canon on the other Hand has the 28-70/2, the 24-105/2.8, the 10-20/4 the small non Z 70-200/2.8.

If Canon really wants to produce unique lenses, they must step up the Game, currently Nikon produces more unique lenses than Canon.

That‘s coming from a Canon Fanboy who also used Nikon in the past, but came back to Canon with the R5.
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Really sad that Canon can't produce any unique lenses, such as the RF 100-500, RF 200-800, RF 100-300 f/2.8, RF 28-70 f/2, RF 24-105 f/2.8, as well as the affordable 600 and 800 f/11 lenses. I guess those are just the same old, same old....
 
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Quack said:
Really sad that Canon can't produce any unique lenses, such as the RF 100-500, RF 200-800, RF 100-300 f/2.8, RF 28-70 f/2, RF 24-105 f/2.8, as well as the affordable 600 and 800 f/11 lenses. I guess those are just the same old, same old....
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And the RF10-20mm that is wider (10mm), much smaller, much lighter and cheaper than the EF11-24mm.
 
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Quack said:
Really sad that Canon can't produce any unique lenses, such as the RF 100-500, RF 200-800, RF 100-300 f/2.8, RF 28-70 f/2, RF 24-105 f/2.8, as well as the affordable 600 and 800 f/11 lenses. I guess those are just the same old, same old....
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I mentioned some of these lenses, however the 100-300/2.8 is not that unique Sigma and Nikon already did 120-300/2.8 DSLR lenses.
I do have the 800 f11, to be honest compared to the 200-800 it‘s a bit rubbish.
 
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Del Paso said:
As you just wrote, "some of the lenses".
The same could be said of Canon too, and there's also the fact that some "new" Z lenses are simply rebadged Tamrons.
Think of the coming RF lenses like the 14mm AF T/S,
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I'll believe this one when i see it announced and I'll then place a pre-order deposit LOL

I wonder about the Z lenses made in Thailand vs China vs Japan. I have 2 of the Japan made lenses, 58 and 600/4 and 2 from Thailand, the z 70-200/2.8 and 135/1.8

Where Are Z Lenses Made? | Thom Hogan

Where does Nikon make its Z-mount lenses?
www.zsystemuser.com
 
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